Contents 1 Follow up question, asking a photographer permission to use one of their images in an article on Wikipedia 2 Question regarding use of company logo in article infobox 3 File:Google Now logo.webp 4 File:Haiwenlogo.png 5 Bing Images 6 More than one fair use image in an article 7 Non-free or PD? 8 File:Troy Trojans logo.svg 9 Finnish presidential election, 2018 logos 10 Images published in The Illustrated London News in 1955 11 Non-commercial File 12 File:ZM2014Logo.png 13 Can I use image from English (en) Wikipedia to Malayalam (ml) wikipedia 14 Copyright expiration on photos - Australia and USA This page is automatically archived by lowercase sigmabot III. Any threads with no replies in 7 days may be automatically moved. Sections without timestamps are not archived.


Follow up question, asking a photographer permission to use one of their images in an article on Wikipedia[edit] I've contacted the following photographer: https://www.instagram.com/snap__pat/ about the possibility of using this image https://www.instagram.com/p/Bd2wiqOBZNp/ in the article for Leila Goldkuhl. This is a copy of the email I sent, and the agreement I received: https://imgur.com/0Gm01i9 Noted, I know this means nothing If an email is not sent to commons, I'm just worried about how the ownership would be verified from their end. How would commons determine whether the email is legitimate? Trafalk09 (talk) 13:10, 8 February 2018 (UTC) Trafalk09, you can read about the means at their disposal here: Commons:OTRS. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:03, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


Question regarding use of company logo in article infobox[edit] I am creating a Wikipedia article about a company with a copyrighted logo. I would like to add that logo as the image within the article's infobox, as is the case with articles in Wikipedia. Is there any problem with doing so? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eromtlib (talk • contribs) 01:59, 11 February 2018 (UTC) @Eromtlib: If it is in draft space? Yes there is a problem. It can't go in draft space. If it is published? It has to be under fair use and it has to have a proper fair use rationale and be sized correctly. Once the article is live you can always request upload at WP:FFU and someone who knows exactly what they are doing would be able to help you there. --Majora (talk) 02:02, 11 February 2018 (UTC) Follow Up: So I assume that means I should publish the article without the logo, work on completing a fair use rationale, and at some point thereafter request upload at WP:FFU. Is that correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eromtlib (talk • contribs) 02:17, 11 February 2018 (UTC) Yes. It should be published without the logo to start. Articles don't necessarily need images to be put into main space. The uploader at FFU will do the rationale for you if you go that route. It has to be done on upload. They will also make sure it meets the policy. --Majora (talk) 02:19, 11 February 2018 (UTC) Followup—logos that consist only of type and geometric shapes may fall into the category of not subject to copyright. I'm not sure if the logo for ToxPlanet quite meets this criterion, but given that it consists of two spheres, a rectangle and type, it might. — jmcgnh(talk) (contribs) 06:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC) The shading would make it so it would meet the threshold of originality. That would be deleted off of Commons. --Majora (talk) 07:27, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


File:Google Now logo.webp[edit] Uploader tagged this with {{PD-textlogo}} and {{Non-free logo}} and the resulting license conflict is causing it to be flagged by a bot as a WP:NFCC#9 violation. Seems like this can be PD since Google is based in the US. Is there any reason why this might need to be non-free? -- Marchjuly (talk) 15:01, 11 February 2018 (UTC) Simple shading like that is probably fine. It is different from the heavy and multiple shading in the above section. I would say that that is PD-textlogo. --Majora (talk) 22:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC) Thanks Majora for taking a look. File's licensing was cleaned up by Hammersoft. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:46, 12 February 2018 (UTC)


File:Haiwenlogo.png[edit] This was uploaded as {{non-free logo}}. It's being used in Draft:Haiwen & Partners which means it fails WP:NFCC#9 and it also is missing a non-free use rationale so it can be tagged for speedy deletion per WP:F6. The question though is whether this can be converted to {{PD-logo}}. The Chinese characters are just the name of the company and the font seems pretty standard, so it looks like it would be PD in the US for sure. I'm not sure though about c:COM:TOO#China (PRC) which is where the company is located. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:46, 12 February 2018 (UTC)


Bing Images[edit] Does Wikipedia allow Bing Images if they are Public Domain or Creative Commons? I'm looking for a Jim Bakker image and I found some from this link and I'd like to know. --LovelyGirl7 talk 22:17, 12 February 2018 (UTC) Hi LovelyGirl7. Public domain images are always fine on Wikipedia. Creative Commons licenses are only acceptable if they allow commercial reuse and modification, so that they can fit Wikipedia's CC-BY-SA license. So you'd want to search with this link instead. Also, Bing is a search engine, it doesn't host any images itself. So if you do find an image that works, make sure to credit the source page, and not the Bing results page. Howicus (Did I mess up?) 22:23, 12 February 2018 (UTC) Hello LovelyGirl7, as explained above not all CC is allowed so it is better to use the selector "Free to modify, share, and use commercially". --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:29, 12 February 2018 (UTC) @Howicus: @Emir of Wikipedia: I searched and I found this image: [1]. It's under the "Free to modify, share, and use commercially" category. I'm just curious, I wonder who's the author. Are "Free to modify, share, and use commercially" images "Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0", "Creative Commons Attribution 4.0, or a different category? If a different category in Special:Upload, which one do you think the "Free to modify, share, and use commercially" category would fall under? --LovelyGirl7 talk 23:37, 12 February 2018 (UTC) That's likely to be license laundering and is also known as a "derivative work". Someone took a copyrighted image, superimposed their own text on it, and then put it under a "free" license. You have to be careful of those things but they are relatively easy to spot most of the time. You can read more about license laundering on our sister project, Commons: c:COM:License laundering and c:COM:Derivative works. --Majora (talk) 00:35, 13 February 2018 (UTC)


More than one fair use image in an article[edit] Towards the end of last month User:Begoon and User:Masem were kind enough to give me some advice on whether I would be likely to justify using three fair use images in an article on an artist and designer to illustrate the three difference strands of his work (cartoons, stage sets and architectural history). I have now put three such images into the relevant text at Osbert Lancaster#Architectural history and comment. Osbert Lancaster#Cartoons, and Osbert Lancaster#Theatre design. I wonder if either of those editors, or indeed any other who knows about fair use, would be good enough to have a look at my text and the rationales on the three image pages and let me know if they think I have done what is needed. Tim riley talk 16:38, 13 February 2018 (UTC) All good. You have commentary in prose to justify each example, which is probably better than most "example work" images used for other bios of visual artists. --Masem (t) 16:40, 13 February 2018 (UTC) I think there is a good NFCC argument based on what you wrote in the article and the images chosen that they meet NFCC. The only quibble is the actual images chosen, instead of some other 'unfree' images, but I don't think that is much of a quibble. Also, in the first, there does not seem to be a present commercial opportunity -- the second, is a bit more recent and we should list the publisher of the book -- the third, the only possible issue is whether there is an estate, and whether that matters. Alanscottwalker (talk) 16:49, 13 February 2018 (UTC) @Masem:@Alanscottwalker: Dear colleagues, thank you both so much for this advice. I'll make sure to add the publisher's name to the image pages. I'm hoping to take the article to FAC in due course, so you can imagine how important it is to be sure the images are all as OK as I can make them. Your help is greatly appreciated. Tim riley talk 00:43, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


Non-free or PD?[edit] There are a number of non-free images being used in List of female Heroes of the Soviet Union (File:Juliana Gromova.jpg, File:Captain Klavdia Fomicheva.jpg, File:Nadezhda Fedutenko.jpg, File:Irina Feodorovna Sebrova.jpg, File:Natalya Meklin in uniform.jpg, File:Rufina Gasheva.jpg, File:Marina Chechneva.jpg, and File:Raisa Aronova in uniform.jpg). It's being asserted at User talk:Hammersoft#"Non-free" images in lists Suggestion that many if not all of these images might have recently fallen into the public domain. FWIW, the list article has been flagged by a bot for excessive non-free files. There's no limitation per se placed on how many non-free images can be used in a single article, but generally this type of usage in list articles has not been allowed per WP:NFLISTS. The files also lack the separate specific non-free use rationale for the list article required by WP:NFCC#10c. The files are being used in stand-alone articles about each person and that non-free use appears fine, so removing them from the list article would not mean deletion of the file. If, however, some or all of these files are now within the PD domain, their licensing can be converted according and they would no longer be subject to WP:NFCC, and also could likely be moved to Commons. Perhaps more eyes on this can help sort it out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:19, 13 February 2018 (UTC) This deletion template on Commons may be of particular interest to this thread: c:template:PD-Soviet. There are very specific date requirements here that would dictate whether or not the images have lapsed copyright. And even if they did have a lapsed copyright in Russia, the URAA presents further issues with US copyright. I can do some research on these specific images but I'm not making any promises on speed or whether or not the end result is going to please anyone. --Majora (talk) 22:27, 13 February 2018 (UTC) Would like to point out it was a Standard operating procedure to publish photos of people awarded the title Hero of the Soviet Union in the Pravda newspaper in WWII.--PlanespotterA320 (talk) 23:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC) That's wonderful, but unless we can prove they were in fact published in Pravda, it has no relevance. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:26, 14 February 2018 (UTC) @PlanespotterA320: In case you weren't aware, Wikipedia non-free content use criterion #10c requires that a seperate specific non-free use rationale be provided for eaach use. Moreover, per WP:NFCCE, this non-free use ratioanle is to be "valid": clearly show how the particular use of the file meets all ten non-free content use criteria. In other words, simply adding a non-free use rationale does not automatically mean the the particular use is NFCCP compliant as explained in WP:JUSTONE. I am posting this becuase edits such as this (and similar edits you made to the other files listed above) are not really the best way to try and resolve this matter. You can't justify non-free use by simply tacking on more article links to an existing non-free use rationale. What you are going to need to do is provide a non-free rationale which clearly shows how all ten non-free content criteria are met for each non-free file you want to use in the list article. There is a pretty strong consensus against this type of use per WP:NFLISTS, but perhaps you can establish a consensus at WP:FFD for these files as exceptions. The other option is to clearly show that the files are actually now PD because of their age. You will need to provide something more substantial that an opinion that they were published in Pravda during WWII. You might want to try also asking at c:COM:VP/C for help since someone at Commons may also be able to help resolve the copyright status of these files; just try to remember that these files are uploaded locally to Wikipedia, so if you discuss them and want to link to them, you will have to either use WP:INTERWIKI to link them or provide the urls to the files' pages. The reason the files are on Wikipedia at the moment is because they were uploaded as non-free and Commons does not accept non-free content. If there's a consensus on Commons that these are PD, then they can be converted to PD and moved there, where they be used by all Wikimedia projects. At the same time, moving them there would be a waste of time if Commons is not going to keep them. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:00, 14 February 2018 (UTC) So should I not bother doing the research? I'm going into it myself with the preconceived idea that these are not free and would not be able to be used in the list due to fair use restrictions but if they are going to post at VPC then it really isn't worth it to dedicate research to it myself. --Majora (talk) 01:14, 14 February 2018 (UTC) @Majora: Any help you can provide would be most appreciated. I just suggested VP/C to the uploader as another possible option since they seem to be a little bit impatient and also insistent that these are PD. I apologize if my post was interpreted to mean that your help or the help of anyone else working on trying to sort this out was no longer needed. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:25, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


File:Troy Trojans logo.svg[edit] Does this need to be licensed as {{non-free logo}}? Troy University is located in the US and this looks pretty close to a wordmark-type of a logo, but I'm not sure if the shading/gradiant giving it a 3D effect is just enough to nudge it above c:COM:TOO#United States. If it is non-free, then it will have to be removed from Draft:Troy Trojans women's volleyball per WP:NFCC#9 and also probably removed from Troy Trojans softball per WP:NFCC#10c and WP:NFC#UUI17. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:29, 14 February 2018 (UTC)


Finnish presidential election, 2018 logos[edit] Was wondering if File:Laura Huhtasaari 2018 logo.png, File:Merja2018.png, File:Sauli Niinistö 2018 logo.svg, File:Nils Torvalds 2018 logo.svg and File:VäyrynenLogo.png need to be licensed as non-free logo. If they do, then they should probably be removed from Finnish presidential election, 2018 per WP:NFTABLES, WP:NFCC#8 and MOS:LOGO. Even if they are not below the c:COM:TOO#Finland for {{PD-logo}}, then perhaps they can be converted to {{PD-ineligible-USonly}} instead. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:43, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


Images published in The Illustrated London News in 1955[edit] In 1955, two issues of The Illustrated London News featured images of the Emesa helmet (full citations are in the article). The first included two photographs on the front page, with the line "Photograph Crown Copyright reserved, reproduced by permission of the Trustees of the British Museum." The second also included two photographs (which appear to have been colored by hand), and the line "Reproduced by courtesy of the General Directorate of Antiquities of Syria, world copyright reserved." Would someone please give an indication of the copyright status of these photographs? If I'm reading the Crown copyright page correctly, the first images would have entered the public domain in 2005. The status of the second set of images—published in the UK by permission of a Syrian agency with "world copyright" invoked—is less clear. Thanks, --Usernameunique (talk) 21:59, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


Non-commercial File[edit] I want to upload an image to Wikipedia and the owner has given me the permission but only for non-commercial use. How should I proceed? Gotitbro (talk) 03:03, 16 February 2018 (UTC) Wikipedia accepts files either as non-free, in which case it must comply with our WP:NFCC policy, or as free license. For our purposes, an image that is not allowed to be used for commercial purposes falls under non-free. In most cases, we don't accept non-free images. So, it depends on what the image is and your intended use. Can you tell us the answers to those questions? --Hammersoft (talk) 03:10, 16 February 2018 (UTC) The image is of Indian 10 rupee coins. There is widespread confusion regarding the appearance of the coins and I wanted to add the image to better illustrate what is written in the article. Gotitbro (talk) 04:11, 16 February 2018 (UTC) This would be a non-free image. What does the image bring to the article that we don't already have on Indian 10-rupee coin? --Hammersoft (talk) 04:24, 16 February 2018 (UTC) I believe it would better help illustrate the text that is written which describes the coins appearance via text. Gotitbro (talk) 04:33, 16 February 2018 (UTC) There are already three images there. How would an additional image add to it? --Hammersoft (talk) 13:25, 16 February 2018 (UTC)


File:ZM2014Logo.png[edit] Does this need to be treated a non-free. If it does, then its non-free use can probably be justified only in the parent article ZM (radio station) and not in any of the individual station articles. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:37, 16 February 2018 (UTC) I changed it to pd-text/trademark. It's just letters. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:43, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Thanks Hammersoft for taking a look. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:27, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


Can I use image from English (en) Wikipedia to Malayalam (ml) wikipedia[edit] I want to use images in English Wikipedia page to Malayalam Wikipedia pages which has already been created by someone else. How can I use this image. Does copyright allowed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jinoytommanjaly (talk • contribs) 05:48, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Jinoytommanjaly, that depends on the image. There are roughly three possibilities: images used on the English Wikipedia but actually hosted on Wikimedia Commons are good to go; simply use them on Malayalam like you do here, no need to re-upload. Images used and hosted here on English Wikipedia with a free license can also be used, but you need to re-upload them, preferably to Wikimedia Commons so that all different language Wikipedias can use them easily. The third case is generally the only no-no: non-free content images can only be used here. Can you show us the specific image? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:13, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Finnusertop,the file is used in English Wikipedia only.Have a look to the file is --[File:Sakhavu.jpg] --Jin0y (talk) 11:45, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Jinoytommanjaly, it's a non-free file (so case number three as described above). For how this works on ml.wikipedia, see ml:വിക്കിപീഡിയ:സ്വതന്ത്രമല്ലാത്ത ഉള്ളടക്കം. If the file passes those guidelines, you'll need to re-upload it on ml.wikipedia to use it there. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 11:49, 17 February 2018 (UTC)


Copyright expiration on photos - Australia and USA[edit] Being new at this I would be grateful for opinion on the copyright of this photo of Maggie Dunne which I've just uploaded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maggie_Dunne_in_raised_embroidery_bodice_1909.jpg The photo is of a family member of mine and I own the photo. I would like to use it as an example of raised embroidery. It was taken in 1909 in a photographic studio in Toowoomba in the State of Queensland in Australia. Australian copyright on photos expires after 70 years. Does this make the photo Public Domain for use in Wikipedia? Maryodel (talk) 00:57, 18 February 2018 (UTC) Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Media_copyright_questions&oldid=826239332" Categories: Wikipedia copyrightWikipedia image helpWikipedia help forumsHidden categories: Non-talk pages that are automatically signedPages automatically checked for incorrect links


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