Contents 1 TripWire 1.1 Request concerning TripWire 1.2 Discussion concerning TripWire 1.2.1 Statement by TripWire 1.2.2 Statement by Kautilya3 1.2.3 Statement by (username) 1.3 Result concerning TripWire 2 Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Bachcell 2.1 Statement by Bachcell 2.2 Statement by NeilN 2.3 Statement by (involved editor 1) 2.4 Statement by (involved editor 2) 2.5 Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Bachcell 2.6 Result of the appeal by Bachcell 3 Hyper9 3.1 Request concerning Hyper9 3.2 Discussion concerning Hyper9 3.2.1 Statement by Hyper9 3.2.2 Statement by Robert McClenon 3.2.3 Statement by (username) 3.3 Result concerning Hyper9


TripWire[edit] Clear violation of Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log#India-Pakistan_3. 48 hour block. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 01:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC) The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning TripWire[edit] User who is submitting this request for enforcement  MBlaze Lightning (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) 16:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested  TripWire (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) Search DS alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Arbitration enforcement log#India-Pakistan_3 : A second revert without discussion restriction. A second revert of any edit, however minor, that is done without an explanation on the talk page will lead to an immediate block. Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it  12:16, 12 February 2018 1st revert 13:04, 12 February 2018 2nd revert Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any  Topic banned from all edits related to Pakistani politics and Indian/Pakistani conflicts, for a period of 6 months on 3 July 2015. Topic banned from all Balochistan related articles on 29 July 2016. If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) [1][2] indicates that he is aware of the editing sanctions placed on Kashmir conflict related articles. Additional comments by editor filing complaint  This is a clear violation of the editing sanctions placed on this page by this disruption only account. His first revert[3] was totally inappropriate and unwarranted because I had linked to the SPI casepage in my edit-summary. And again, after I reverted him, he went ahead and restored the edits of a disruptive paid editing sock, which, as WP:PROXYING says, means that he took complete responsibility of the sock edits. His edit[4] clearly violated WP:LEADSENTENCE, which specifically states that the first sentence should generally match the page title, not to mention that he replaced the phrase "refers to a Jaish-e-Mohammed fidayeen (suicide attack)" with "refers to a Jaish-e-Mohammed attack" in an attempt to whitewash the fact that it was a terror attack. —MBL Talk 16:53, 12 February 2018 (UTC) Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested  Notified here Discussion concerning TripWire[edit] Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by TripWire[edit] Statement by Kautilya3[edit] Indeed, this topic seems to have brought out the good old brashness of this editor. He has also edit-warred about a "See also" entry at 2016 Uri attack [5], [6]. The statutory talk page discussion had this gem: Good try. But no, except from the fact that it was a terrorist attack, they doesnt qualify a connection. Next what? You'd say that as India has accused Pakistan for the attack, that's another similarity to establish a linkage between the two? Going by your understanding, each and every attack should be listed in every other (Indian) terror attack article? This box is enough to establish the çonnection, for now. These editors are beginning to act like they own the Wikipedia and we need to obtain their permission to lift our fingers. It has gotten rather too much now. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 19:01, 12 February 2018 (UTC) Statement by (username)[edit] Result concerning TripWire[edit] This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. The given example is less of a problem than Kautilya3's example, which leaves zero room for doubt. I don't see a block log, but I don't think a warning is sufficient here. A short block is warranted, and I'm opposed to considering a topic ban instead. I would also note that just because an open SPI has been filed, Blaze Lightning, that isn't flat permission to revert. That is why the first case is weak, as we don't know (and you didn't know) if the IP really is a sock or not, so you are skating on thin ice when reverting material that isn't obviously wrong, or vandalism, etc. That is what makes the initial case weak. As far as his edits violating WP:LEADSENTENCE, that has no place here and is a content issue. We don't deal with content at WP:AE. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 21:41, 12 February 2018 (UTC) Looks to be a clear violation of the letter of the sanctions. Since TripWire's block log is clear, a short block, perhaps 48 hours, is all that is warranted. Dennis, could you? --regentspark (comment) 01:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)


Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Bachcell[edit] Appeal unanimously declined. Sandstein 18:29, 15 February 2018 (UTC) The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it. Procedural notes: The rules governing arbitration enforcement appeals are found here. According to the procedures, a "clear, substantial, and active consensus of uninvolved editors" is required to overturn an arbitration enforcement action. To help determine any such consensus, involved editors may make brief statements in separate sections but should not edit the section for discussion among uninvolved editors. Editors are normally considered involved if they are in a current dispute with the sanctioning or sanctioned editor, or have taken part in disputes (if any) related to the contested enforcement action. Administrators having taken administrative actions are not normally considered involved for this reason alone (see WP:UNINVOLVED). Appealing user  Bachcell (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) Sanction being appealed  48 hour block, reset of topic ban [7] Administrator imposing the sanction  NeilN (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) Notification of that administrator  Copied from [8] --NeilN talk to me 16:54, 15 February 2018 (UTC) Statement by Bachcell[edit] Why was I blocked I only informed an editor about an article without actually adding any content. So I can't even add comments on another page about a woman whose article was deleted but is now facing terrorist charges? I could understand extending the topic block, but why is it so harmful that it justifies a complete block? How can there be any harm in just mentioning the existence of an article title? Statement by NeilN[edit] The topic ban was actually a fairly narrow one, a "three month topic ban from all BLP edits on subjects related to terrorism". This edit violated it. Given they've done no other editing since the topic ban was imposed, I think a 48 hour block and extension of the topic ban is rather lenient. --NeilN talk to me 17:03, 15 February 2018 (UTC) Statement by (involved editor 1)[edit] Statement by (involved editor 2)[edit] Discussion among uninvolved editors about the appeal by Bachcell[edit] Result of the appeal by Bachcell[edit] This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. To me, it looks like a clear violation of the topic ban against BLP edits involving terrorism. The block should stand.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:01, 15 February 2018 (UTC) I agree with SarekOfVulcan and note that I have not assessed the validity of the topic ban as such because it is not contested. Sandstein 17:15, 15 February 2018 (UTC) The purpose of Bachcell's topic ban (from BLP edits involving terrorism) was to keep them away from the intersection of BLP subjects and terrorism. As such, their recent edit at User talk:Geo Swan did not harmonize with the purpose of their ban, even if their edit did not directly change a BLP article. I support their 48-hour block and the three-month ban extension, so would decline this appeal. They were also bending the rules in their December 2017 post about a possible terrorist connection for an arrested person named Jesus Fabian Gonzalez, though nobody noticed this ban violation at the time. Their comment included the phrase "..suggesting a political agenda similar to efforts to remove or minimize actual terrorist attacks." EdJohnston (talk) 17:37, 15 February 2018 (UTC) A topic ban means to stay away from the subject altogether. No discussing it, no "informing" people about it. This was a clear violation of the topic ban and the sanction for it was appropriate. Seraphimblade Talk to me 17:52, 15 February 2018 (UTC) Textbook violation. There really is no wiggle room on this one, and a 48 hour block is very reasonable. Resetting the tban clock is perfectly within discretion as well. To me, the sanction was right down the center of what we would expect an admin to do. I would decline the appeal. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 18:11, 15 February 2018 (UTC)


Hyper9[edit] This request may be declined without further action if insufficient or unclear information is provided in the "Request" section below. Requests may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs (not counting required information), except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Request concerning Hyper9[edit] User who is submitting this request for enforcement  Nagadeepa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) 15:48, 16 February 2018 (UTC) User against whom enforcement is requested  Hyper9 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · edit filter log · block user · block log) Search DS alerts: in user talk history • in system log Sanction or remedy to be enforced Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan#Standard discretionary sanctions To ban Hyper9 from editing the Malayalam page (and other Indian history pages) where he has been propagating fringe theories not widely accepted by most scholars. Hyper9 has also been repeatedly deleting accurately referenced widely accepted views on the history of the Malayalam language. He has also been brazenly distorting the following accurate source and completely misinterpreting it to suit his fringe theories: https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/24157306.pdf?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents Finally, he has refused to engage in dispute resolution procedures on spurious grounds: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard/Archive_160#Talk:Malayalam I note that this not a new problem and he has been banned in the past for similar disruptive behaviour. Diffs of edits that violate this sanction or remedy, and an explanation how these edits violate it  - 18:38, 12 February 2018‎ Accurate history of Malayalam language with scientific references. Hyper9 has consistently been deleting these referenced edits of mine based on the work of reputed linguists and historians which jettison the theory that Malayalam had an independent origin from Tamil. 16/2/18 14:47 This is the current version of the page where Hyper9 has ensured that a biased and fringe history of the Malayalam language is left unchallenged. A full argument between Hyper9 and two other editors Cpt.a.haddock and me Nagadeepa can be seen in the talk page. Anyone who reads the whole exchange and particularly the research article by S.V Shanmugam (which I have quoted from extensively in the talk section) can see that Hyper9 has been distorting this source and is being disruptive and obstructive. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Malayalam#Debates_on_the_origins_of_Malayalam_-_June_2017 Diffs of previous relevant sanctions, if any  [9] Hyper9 was previously banned on 7th July 2017 from all articles related to Indian history for the exact same reasons that I am submitting this request. If discretionary sanctions are requested, supply evidence that the user is aware of them (see WP:AC/DS#Awareness and alerts) Mentioned by name in the Arbitration Committee's Final Decision linked to above. Previously blocked as a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict, see the block log linked to above. Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on [10] (7/7/17) by SpacemanSpiff (talk · contribs). @SpacemanSpiff: @Doug Weller: Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above. Gave an alert about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on [11] 7/7/17. Participated in an arbitration request or enforcement procedure about the area of conflict in the last twelve months, on [12]. Additional comments by editor filing complaint  Apologies for not attaching correct diff links earlier. I am new to wikipedia editing. I think this is what is requested as a 'diff': https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malayalam&type=revision&diff=825503445&oldid=825317310 Nagadeepa (talk) 18:23, 16 February 2018 (UTC)--> Notification of the user against whom enforcement is requested  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hyper9#Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nagadeepa (talk • contribs) 18:23, 16 February 2018 (UTC) Discussion concerning Hyper9[edit] Statements must be made in separate sections. They may not exceed 500 words and 20 diffs, except by permission of a reviewing administrator. Administrators may remove or shorten noncompliant statements. Disruptive contributions may result in blocks. Statement by Hyper9[edit] Statement by Robert McClenon[edit] This is not "just a content dispute". It is a content dispute that is compounded by conduct issues. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Talk:Malayalam . As you can see, there has been incivility on both sides. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:26, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Statement by (username)[edit] Result concerning Hyper9[edit] This section is to be edited only by uninvolved administrators. Comments by others will be moved to the sections above. User:Hyper9 was placed under a six-month topic ban from 'edits or pages pertaining to Indian history' in July 2017 by User:SpacemanSpiff. The ban was unsuccessfully appealed at AE in July 2017. The six-month ban expired in January 2018. Edits by Hyper9 of Malayalam during the month of February don't violate any currently active ban, but we might consider whether reinstatement of the ban with a new expiry might be justified. I am filling out some of the fields in this complaint above with the relevant ban information. EdJohnston (talk) 16:50, 16 February 2018 (UTC) Though the complaint here is less than perfectly organized, Hyper9's original arguments against his ban don't persuade. To see more background, read the editor's talk page starting at User talk:Hyper9#Discretionary sanctions alert, which was in June 2017. I'm leaving pings for User:MelanieN, User:RegentsPark and User:Doug Weller since they participated in earlier discussions. Note that, when banned from Indian history, Hyper9 stopped editing the encyclopedia for precisely six months and then resumed where he left off, arguing about the same articles. This somewhat works around the rationale for timed bans, which are intended to let the editor contribute in other areas while avoiding the trouble spot. Hyper9's interactions with administrators were very indignant and they suggest two possibilities: either (a) the admins had no idea what they were doing, or (b) Hyper9 was really off the rails but refused to reflect on the problems they were causing. I suspect that (b) is more likely to be correct. EdJohnston (talk) 04:30, 17 February 2018 (UTC) A cursory view of the available discussions gives me the impression that an indefinite topic ban might be in order. I'm happy to be persuaded otherwise, but I'm seeing a strong case of WP:IDHT and an unwillingness to discuss in good faith, at DRN or the talk page. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 17:15, 16 February 2018 (UTC) Pinging User:SpacemanSpiff who placed the original sanction, as I assume they are familiar with editor. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 13:56, 17 February 2018 (UTC) I don't see how this is actionable. The supposed diffs being reported aren't diffs. And the explanation given for the report doesn't make clear how this is not just a content dispute. Sandstein 17:17, 16 February 2018 (UTC) I agree the report as given isn't, but there is a problem to be found if you look elsewhere. Dennis Brown - 2¢ 17:20, 16 February 2018 (UTC) I concur with the topic ban. Though the discussion on the talk page is rather confusing, Hyper9 is clearly obfuscating and not assuming good faith. Given that they've had similar issues in the past, an indef topic ban is warranted.--regentspark (comment) 14:18, 17 February 2018 (UTC) Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&oldid=826150911" Hidden categories: Wikipedia move-protected project pages


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